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Andre Ryland's avatar

Thanks Ed, very well said about the "holy" land. I am however not only skeptical but quite cynical that the sun rises and sets. It does not. We experience sunrive and sunleve at near a thousand miles per hour. Cheers.

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Jodi Goodman's avatar

It sounds like we have similar views on Hamas' terrorism and Israel's response. I care for both Israelis (including the 2+ million Palestinian Israeli citizens) and innocent people in Gaza. Hamas is a terrorist organization, does not act in the best interests of Palestinians, and uses Gazans as human shields. Hamas purposely attacked innocent Israelis. I wish the Israel military could wipe Hamas out completely without innocent people being killed.

Jews are getting it from the left and the right. I have an Israeli friend who is a professor at UMD, where his daughter is a freshman. He believes she is not safe on campus because of the violent rhetoric of so-called pro-Palestinian student groups. My friend pointed me to this NYT article. One of several statements that stuck out to me is, "That message [referencing Bernie Sander's statement] is undermined when a loud part of the left insists that when it comes to Israelis, there is no such thing as civilians." This view seems to be widespread. This is terrifying to progressive Jews, including atheist-Jews. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/12/opinion/columnists/israel-gaza-massacre-left.html?fbclid=IwAR1LRFq1fdEyBwls4axHsoaGdmBjZBjJA8AMLypsSs9nWDMg-_xUhfWuyB0

Also, as much as I respect President Carter, I wish he hadn't identified Israel as an apartheid state in the title. The label is disturbing and could incite violence. I realize the book was published years ago, and I don't know what his current views are.

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